Posts by Lost and adrift

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When you Go to Bethel, You Sign Over Your Dead Body.

by new boy in

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this is in response to the thread about the supposed suicide of a bethelite in 1995.. when i went to bethel i and everyone else, signed a form stating that "if we died while at bethel the wathtower bible and tract society,had the right to keep our body.".

yes, we thought it strange at the time but as a twenty years old you didn't think much about stuff like that.

besides we were never going to die anyway.

Lost and adrift

That reminds me of when my granny died when I was little my mum told me the cemetery didn't alow headstones so she couldn't have one. ...

When I grew up I rang to ask the cemetery why they didn't allow headstone and I think the girl tried not to laugh.....of course they allow them. ...

I'm guessin that mum fell somewhere between being a good JW who shouldn't worry abut headstonea because God will remember her mother and basicly basicly not wanting to waste money on one for us kids to visit the grave. ...

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Swearing on the bible

by Lost and adrift in

on the subject of truth.

..... i was always under the impression that one of the reasons jws couldn't do jury duty or go to court etc was that we were not allowed to swear on the bible.

..as in i swear to tell the truth the whole truth etc etc .

Lost and adrift

Thank u blondie

They chop n change the rules that much u wouldn't know what was what anymore lol

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Swearing on the bible

by Lost and adrift in

on the subject of truth.

..... i was always under the impression that one of the reasons jws couldn't do jury duty or go to court etc was that we were not allowed to swear on the bible.

..as in i swear to tell the truth the whole truth etc etc .

Lost and adrift

On the subject of truth. ....

I was always under the impression that one of the reasons jws couldn't do jury duty or go to court etc was that we were not allowed to swear on the bible. ..as in I swear to tell the truth the whole truth etc etc

I know this because when I was in court for my divorce I froze in fear because I had to swear on the bible and I actualy feared the elders would find out haha. ..

Anyway I was like super shocked watching the Australian commision and saw even the GB guardians of the doctrine swore on bible

....so like was I brought up told that lie or was anyone else under the same impression....

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How do you feel about the expression "The Truth"?

by stuckinarut2 in

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it's amazing how the expression "the truth" has become such an ingrained term used by witnesses.. "we have 'the truth'".

"is he 'in the truth'?".

most here have found out so many facts about the organisation, and felt the effects of being "gut-punched" as we realised these facts.. so how do you feel about the expression "the truth" now?.

Lost and adrift

The Truth is I've been lied to my whole life about the truth and now I don't think I'd recognise truth from fiction. ..ain't thst the truth lol

Wich reminds me I need to start a thread about swearing on the bible. .....

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Is there evidence for networks of abuse?

by slimboyfat in

i tend to avoid the subject because it's too depressing, so i've probably missed lots of discussion about this issue.

but i read a comment on youtube yesterday that shocked me and made me wonder.

the person claimed that many years ago abusers in society generally identified jws as a safe haven for abusers and joined en masse order to exploit the situation.

Lost and adrift

If you ask me it's not beyond the realms of possibility ...nothing would shock me anymore!

Let's face it the borg 3 men quizzing a lone woman about sexual matters etc was acceptable and not deemed abuse till some of us woke up and got out. ...so God knows what else we missed spotting lol

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First time here

by BarelyThere in

okay so here goes...this is my first time on here.

i'm lost and confused and am feeling very hopeless.

i was dfed in september and i am still wrapping my head around everything.

Lost and adrift

Being disfellowshipped for so-called "sins of the flesh" induces a lot of fear, obligation and guilt (FOG) that often the individual from thinking rationally. Instead, emotions rule. It is unsurprising that your mind turns to the need to mend relationships.

Wow Steve2 I think you have just made me wake up and see the chaos in my head for what it actually is!

Thand you

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First time here

by BarelyThere in

okay so here goes...this is my first time on here.

i'm lost and confused and am feeling very hopeless.

i was dfed in september and i am still wrapping my head around everything.

Lost and adrift

Welcome. ...

Feeling your pain and confusion as was only recently df myself despite having faded out about 5 years ago....

It was clear to me one elder Jobsworth had it in for me and wouldn't rest till things were official. He didn't let up persecuting and hounding me to meet the elders despite my fiance being diagnosed with cancer at the same time. ..my options were to leave him and move out or get df....what a great witness that would have been anyway....sorry ur dying mate but I'm off to save my soul lol!!

My mother is probably hoping he snuffs it. ..

One announcement later and neither my mother or child have spoken to me since....I cry myself to sleep most nights but dammed sure i wont be bullied back in!

It's such a loving organisation. ..NOT..

I've found lots of support on here ...you will too ...

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Despite a 'number' of similar projects being pulled, the Chelmsford Project will continue...

by NeverKnew in

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this article suggests that there are projects being halted, but chelmsford isn't one of them.

can someone from the uk tell me if this article was written by a reputable and known publisher?

plans for huge jehovah's witnesses hq continues.

Lost and adrift

What's their game?? Both major building projects built on known contaminated land....

Do they assume it will all be cleaned up at Armageddon lol or are they planning suing in the UK too? Of course with all the willing free workers to risk their health in the cleanup I suppose it is a savvy buisness move?

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Hello, I'm new here too!

by redpilltwice in

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hi everybody, 1st post here.

20 years jw, elder for 6 years, regular pioneer for 3 years, have always been following the 2012 candace conti abuse case with much interest, especially since the case suddenly disappeared from www.watchtower.com's news section (thanks brother j. r. brown, office of public information, because it led me to "worldly" websites for more info), leading to more and more dissatisfaction , leading to jwfacts, jwsurvey, ad1914, wtdocuments etc., leading to my awakening about 4 months ago, now fading faster and faster to zero meetings and zero field service...and you know what?

it feels good!.

Lost and adrift

Welcome. ..

In the last days...The love of the greater number will cool off ....

Yay we are full- filling prophecy lol

That's according to my mother who also believes I deserve anything bad that be-falls me for leaving Jehovah ....such love

Still wondering how I hung on for over 40 years thinking I was the problem not the ridiculous borg

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After 17 years, I went to a KH....really shocked!!

by Prometheus in

after severe pressure from my family, i have decided to attend to the nearest kh.

and a little history regarding my self: i became inactive and lost completely contact of the wt changes and "new light" 17 years ago.. everything seemed so odd and strange during the meeting.

latest technology, animated movies, watchtower web tv, a website that you can download everything, including km and wt study articles.

Lost and adrift

Warning. ...if they offer u a study don't take it because they will have expectations of you to confirm or they will eventually df u!!!

They are crafty buggers! !!